Is Twilight Anti-Christian? Yes.

Amidst the throng of Christian supporters of The Twilight Saga who insist that the books are pro-chastity and pro-life (even the actor who plays Edward in the film sees that the pro-chastity claim is false – see this) and that Edward Cullen is a fine example of a virtuous suitor, I would like to up the ante.  I say these books are actually anti-Christian – and that Edward Cullen is an anti-Christ figure.

There was a time (which is thankfully returning) when young children were asked “Why did God make you?” They would be expected to reply: “To know, love and serve Him in this life and to be happy with Him in the next.”  Why was it so important that young children had that memorized?  Because that one little sentence captured the meaning of human life.  It also gave direction.  Anything that I would do that helped me to know, love and serve God and be happy with Him forever was a good thing.  Anything that I might do which prevented me from knowing, loving and serving God and being happy with Him forever was a bad thing.

OK – so, now we need to look at Bella’s reason for living.  Is it consistent with the truth? (And if you are about to say “but this is just fantasy”, please be patient.  I have posted before about the effect fantasy has on our ability to relate to reality.  For example, see the post “Real love and real beauty go together…” or read the posts which lay out Michael O’Brien’s clear thinking on the matter.)

After Bella’s “rebirth” as a vampire in Breaking Dawn, she says, ”I was amazing now – to them and to myself. It was like I had been born to be a vampire. The idea made me want to laugh, but it also made me want to sing. I had found my true place in the world, the place I fit, the place I shined.”

With this “rebirth” into the vampire family, (an anti-type of Baptism) Bella embraces the unfortunate consequence that newborn vampires have an insatiable lust for human blood and unparalleled strength, which makes the habitual slaughter of innocents a forgone conclusion.  Or does it?  We discover that this law of vampire nature is not going to apply in Bella’s case.  Why?  Because her will is so strong that she is able to perform the (prior to) impossible. “And then I realized what it might mean, if my ’superpower’ was no more than exceptional self-control… What if, like Carlisle, I never killed a single person?  What if I could be a good vampire right away?… ‘Have you ever seen an equivalent to self-control as a talent?’ Edward asked Carlisle…’It’s similar to what Siobhan has always been able to do… She has this way of deciding her goals and then almost willing them into reality.” p.466/7  Did you catch that?  Bella has the power to decide her goals – in this case to be a “good vampire” – and then, through her exceptional self-control, she fundamentally wills her goal of not harming anyone into reality. This is a world where God and His grace are unnecessary. Bella saves herself from her bloodlust.

It is not surprising to find this here, and it is directly related to Bella’s stated reason for living.  She has decided that she was “born to be a vampire”.  If she can choose the entire orientation of her life, certainly she can choose to do away with little details she finds unpleasant.  She is the ultimate arbiter of her own destiny.

There are many who do not consider this message problematic.  In fact, this attitude is often considered admirable today.  Unfortunately, the praise for this attitude only serves as a reflection on our loss of humility.  We are creatures, and our Creator has placed us in His world to live according to His decrees.  To claim the power to do anything our own way regardless of or in contradiction to the reality determined by God is fatal pride.  This is the pride of the Garden of Eden, the pride of Babel, the pride of all who would claim no need for a Savior since they can handle things on their own… a common sin in our self-sufficient generation.

That is consistent with Meyer’s use of the apple on the cover of Twilight and the introductory quote from the book of Genesis, of which the author states: “The apple on the cover of Twilight represents ‘forbidden fruit.’ I used the scripture from Genesis (located just after the table of contents) because I loved the phrase ‘the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil.’ Isn’t this exactly what Bella ends up with? A working knowledge of what good is, and what evil is.”  Meyer, however, does not give a complete reading of the Scripture in Genesis.  Most importantly, she completely evades the consequences of the rebellion. Of this, the Catechism of the Catholic Church (#396) states: “The prohibition against eating ‘of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil’ spells this out: ‘for in the day that you eat of it, you shall die’.” Adam and Eve choose to act in defiance of God’s law.  They quickly found out that such an act was not liberating – it was fatal to their souls.  God, in His mercy, did not look at them in disgust and say “I told you so!” – rather, he immediately promised them a Savior in the proto-Evangelium (“first Gospel”) of Genesis 3:15.  Only the humility of the God-man, culminating in His Self-offering on the Cross, would atone for the infinite offense of His proud creatures.

We get no indication in the Twilight Saga that Bella’s pride has any consequences at all – only “rewards”.  So what does Bella experience by becoming a vampire?  A greater ability to “enjoy” the “forbidden fruit” that is Edward: “I could really appreciate him now… He was all new, a different person as our bodies tangled gracefully into one on the sand-pale floor.  No caution, no restraint.  No fear – especially not that. We could love together – both active participants now.  Finally equals… I was never going to get tired, and neither was he.  We didn’t have to catch our breath or rest or eat or even use the bathroom; we had no more mundane human needs.  He had the most beautiful perfect body in the world and I had him all to myself, and it didn’t feel like I was ever going to find a point where I would think, Now I’ve had enough for one day.  I was always going to want more.  And the day was never going to end. So in such a situation, how did we ever stop?”  p.482/3.
If we can refrain for a moment from laughing at the silliness of the writing (she is speaking here about how great it is to be able to engage in sexual activity without ever stopping because she doesn’t have to go to the bathroom anymore!) we see the deeper point: the purpose of Bella’s life had become knowing, loving and serving Edward and being happy with him forever.

In the Twilight Saga Bella finds, in Edward, total fulfillment – in a day that was “never going to end” (thus the title Breaking Dawn).  Of course, this language immediately draws the Christian mind to the “endless day” brought about by Christ, the Savior.  ”Salvation” for Bella comes as a consequence of surrendering her soul in order to live a supposed never ending day as a vampire.  Here,  power, beauty and unrestricted sterile sex with her blood drinking vampire spouse become the equivalent of paradise – the “happily ever after”, as the final chapter of Breaking Dawn is called. Of course, salvation can only be found in the Person and Eternal Reign of Jesus Christ (Col. 3:1-11), the One Who gives His Blood as a ransom. The “promise” presented in The Twilight Saga is the same found in the garden of Eden, whispered by the serpent… “You will not die.  For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” (Gen. 3:4-5)  Meyer turns Revelation on its head, suggesting that the snake is right. Bella eats the forbidden fruit and gets everything she wants as a consequence. In this way, the Twilight Saga is anti-Gospel and Edward is an anti-Christ.  DON’T FALL FOR IT!  IT’S A LIE!

Part two: Meyer’s says she is “anti human” – why is this anti-Christian?  Read here.

NEW POST 12/27: IMPORTANT: Do girls need “fantasy”?

*For an example of a true gentleman, visit my post “A YOUNG MAN OF HEROIC VIRTUE”*


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49 Comments

  1. Idiocy. I WAS going to point out that this is all just fantasy. And I WAS patient, as you asked. And you proceeded to… do absolutely nothing. You didn’t explain how fantasies not in line with how this, the one true reality, works, are somehow immoral. Witchcraft is immoral, yet only the most ridiculously fundamentalist Christians have a problem with Harry Potter (at least now that the mass hysteria is long past). Must I remind you that JK Rowling is a lifelong, devout Christian?

    Yes, she does, unfortunately, support gays, but so does Katherine Jefferts Schori, the Presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church in the United States of America. I personally do not support homosexuality, but I still believe JK Rowling is a strong Christian. This homosexuality nonsense is an unfortunate, admittedly evil, sign of the times.

    Anyway, JK Rowling, a Christian, has written a series about witchcraft. If you practice witchcraft in reality, you are sinning. Period. It’s not so simple in fiction. The world of Harry Potter is a world where witchcraft can be good, and there is no need for faith in God. I don’t think God exists in the world of Harry Potter at all, actually. Blasphemy? Hardly. If it is, then so is the great Christian allegory, The Lord of the Rings, written by JRR Tolkien, a Christian.

    The fact is that in fiction, it’s okay to rewrite the rules, even if that means altering the nature of God, or cutting Him out of the equation altogether. If an accurate representation of Christianity was required in every story, incontrovertible problems would arise whenever an author wanted to include any fantastical elements whatsoever, meaning magic, werewolves, vampires, Greek gods, or psionic powers. All superheroes, with just a few exceptions such as Batman, gain their powers from sources not in line with Christianity. Additionally, the very concept of science fiction basically invalidates all religions.

    Twilight is no different. It is a story about dark, supernatural creatures that don’t actually exist. Edward is undead, so if you think about it from a literal, reality-based perspective, Bella is a necrophiliac. Did you get that? SHE HAS SEX WITH THE DEAD CORPSE THAT IS EDWARD. But that’s not how it works in the story. Edward isn’t living or dead, something not possible in reality. Bella doesn’t need God because in the fictional world of Twilight, vampires just don’t need God, if he even exists. It’s very simple, and you are incredibly naive and, I’m sure, hypocritical to say that because Bella, a fictional character, isn’t a good little Christian girl, the story is immoral. What is of real import is the symbolism behind the story, and in the case of Twilight, the symbolism definitely promotes godly treatment of women, and places a value on true love and chastity.

  2. Very interesting article!! Makes Twilight seem extremely disturbing.

    (I would like to point out to “Astral Symphony” that God is indeed present in Tolkien’s Middle-Earth, as is shown in the Creation story in “the Silmarillion.”)

  3. I wanted to thank you for this truth. I never read the series, but was wanting to go see the movie. I was looking for some true Christian comments about whether this Mormon author was on the right track or not.

    She is obviously way off course, leading our young readers away from the Lord instead of to the Lord.

    The quotes from the book series you mentioned are truly anti-Christian, and since I am familiar with Mormon doctrine, this correlates directly with what they believe, i.e. families are forever (God not being the focus), and that the priesthood of the Mormon church and procreation are what gives God his ultimate power.

  4. Let me start out by saying that I do not claim to be anything close to an expert on the Bible or God. That takes years of study and I think that only pastors or Bible scholars can truly make that claim. Having said that, I agree with Astral Symphony on her views of Twilight. It is ridiculous that you think that this book is corrupting the youth and “leading young readers astray”. In fact I think that Twilight is a metaphor for a Christian life in a way. Please bear with me as I was patient with you during your evaluation.

    You pointed out in your post the whole quote about the “forbidden fruit” in your post. The problem I have with your interpretation is that you automatically assumed it was referring to Edward and turning into a vampire. In my opinion that is wrong. I believe it is a symbol for sin and that Edward is a metaphorical Christian. he is different from the rest of his kind. He goes against his nature to not drink human blood which is the same as Christians going against our nature to sin. He admits that he has slipped up just like as Christians we admit that we have sinned. And finally he does his best to not do it again just like we as Christians do our best not to sin again.

    Where does the forbidden fruit play into this? Bella is his ultimate forbidden fruit. He wants her like he has never wanted a human before. It takes all his will not to kill her. and yet he over comes his temptation and does everything in his power to keep her safe. In fact, when he does bite her, he does it only to save her life. As for Bella being able to will things into reality, it is similar to the Bible when it says that with an ounce of true faith a Christian could move a mountain. She believes that things will happen and they do because she has faith in them. she also shows self control after being turned by not killing humans (sinning) when she accidentally runs across them after she has just been transformed.

    Another point. I find it ironic that you find Edward evil when the entire series he refuses to change her (until that is the only way to save her life) because he is afraid of him stealing her soul and damning her.

    Also, I went to a Christian school for my entire childhood and both my parents are strong Christians. They never limited what I could read (as long as I was old enough of course) and I still consider myself a strong Christian today. My point with that is, if you are truly a Christian and you truly believe in God, then no matter what you read, whether it is Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Twilight, or even the blatantly anti-Christian Golden Compass, you will still be a Christian after you’re done. If you let a book, a FICTION BOOK no less, change your views on life and your beliefs, then you were never a true Christian to begin with.

    Also, I would just like to point out again that this is a FICTION BOOK. Are people really that unable to decipher fiction from reality? I personally found it extremely insulting that you would think that a book, even a very good one like Twilight, could lead me astray from God.

    Finally, and this is for all of those people who haven’t read the book yet, I strongly suggest that you read the book for yourself before you make a judgment out of ignorance. Like I said, reading a book should not be able to move you away from God. It’s not like you are sinning by reading it. If that were the case, then you’d be sinning ever second you were with a non-christian person, or ever time a commercial came on the T.V. that wasn’t “Christian.” None of those things affect YOUR ACTIONS and WHAT YOU BELIEVE.

  5. Well I have seen the movie. The quality of the movie was unique. Yet I found myself captivated by the story. What really caught my attention was the relationship between Bella and Edward. While watching the movie, the scenes between Bella and Edward deep down i asked myself is that what you call love? I being very objective, not trying to tell anybody what to think. It’s just that we need to stop allowing our selves to be easily fooled.The bible says that the devil is like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour. Also it is said that he manifest himself as light. So when i watch this movie i become concern about how intriguing it was to me. I understand that this movie is fiction. Everyone has a choice to either watch it or not. Likewise everyone has a different view point of it. It’s just that if we really want to understand what love truly is this movie is not an example. I think Edward has somewhat of an unhealthy attachment towards Bella. It seems more possessive. If my understanding of what a vampire is (I’m open to correction) that their possess a power of seduction. Then Bella feelings towards Edward is an unhealthy attraction. So what really is there for me learn about love. We need to understand that the very thing that is attractive is the very thing that’s destruction. The devil has a way of corrupting what we see. An as a christian we have to be careful what we filter our minds with. It not about who is right or wrong it’s about what God thinks, what his word says. Believers should not look like or think like the world. I’m reading the other comments,and i think it is good to engage in discussion such as these. To always be open to listen to other views. None the less I was really uncomfortable with the last comment. As christian we need to be responsible. We are instruments of God. To think that what we read or watch will in no way affect our actions or what we believe. Rather we should be cautious what we filter our minds with. It like saying it ok to watch pornography and not be affected. There is no difference in that argument. We are human our actions / response are affect by our environment. So if we continue to compromise how further away do we think we will stray from God. I admit it enjoyed the movie but after analyzing it is not worth it. We need to ask our selves a question ‘how does this movie help me grow spiritual?’
    Also I saw the interview with the writer of this Book. It is interesting how she came about writing this book. I was disturbed but not surprise. That is also another why i don’t appreciate the movie. He who has ears to hear let him hear. It is our responsible to seek and know the truth. God is true love, and only through him can understand and experience this love. Christ dying on the cross for our sins, that’s true love, even though we don’t deserve such a perfect sacrifice. What Bella and Edward has is common in this world, let’s not fool our selves.

  6. I would just like to respectfully disagree with your comments about my post Annalisa. I don’t think that reading the twilight series and/or watching the movie can be compared to watching pornography. When a person watches pornography, he/she is committing the sin of lust. I also never meant for my argument to be construed that our environment doesn’t affect our reactions. I can see how my wording could leave room for that interpretation but that was not what I was trying to get across at all. My point was that it is not a sin to……I’m not sure exactly how to word this to convey my point…..read a book that doesn’t teach Christianity as long as that doesn’t involve sinning. I know that sounds awkward but I’m trying to word it in a way that can’t be misunderstood. For example, if the mere act of reading/watching anything that is in line with God is a sin, then we would be sinning almost constantly every day. Now wait a second though cause I’m confining this to every day things like the newspaper and stuff not things that are overtly sins like pornography and satanic stuff. Another example, I said before that watching pornography would be committing the sin of lust. Well what would be the sin of reading twilight and/or Harry Potter? I can’t think of one personally. If you started practicing witchcraft or killing people and drinking their blood that would obviously be sinning but I do not think that either of these are rational responses to reading the books. I hope you can see where I’m going with this.

    Anyway, I respect that different people have different opinions on this and other issues we’ve discussed but I was just posting thins cause I didn’t want my argument to sound like I was supporting pornography or anything else like that which is without a doubt a sin against God. 🙂

  7. I made a type-o the line in my post should read:

    “For example, if the mere act of reading/watching anything that isn’t in line with God is a sin, then we would be sinning almost constantly every day”

  8. I am a strong Christian and I have recently read all the books in the series, including Midnight Sun, which is partially available online and is essentially all of Twilight from Edward’s perspective.

    My first bone to pick with you is about the response of young children to the question “why did God make you?”. Making kids memorize a response like that isn’t wrong, but it is more or less meaningless. Memorizing responses doesn’t necessarily teach children God’s love or their purpose in life; they just learn that saying certain things will earn them the reward of the parent’s or pastor’s approval. I don’t believe that most kids haven’t reached the maturity to fully comprehend the meaning behind those words, so they simply repeat them as they are asked to. True, some kids and teens can fully grasp the meaning behind the question and response and can use it to direct their life, but most simply can’t.

    Next, Bella does have a reason for living. She loves Charlie and sees it as her duty to care for him. One of the major doubts she has about changing is that she would be leaving him alone. You called her change an “anti-baptism”, but what if it were symbolic of true baptism, of becoming a follower of Christ? Throughout the NT Paul talks about the new man, the new believer, that has replaced the old man. Bella physically becomes a new creation, similar to our spiritual transformation. She sees the world differently, as Christians do upon conversion. She was born to be a vampire– aren’t all people born to know and love God? Yet we have to change from our old man to a new man in order to do so. Just as Bella finds her true place in the world, Christians find their true place in God.

    As for your argument about her self-control and willing things into being, I think Jake does a very good job of addressing those points. Bella is the arbiter of her destiny, just as all people are. We have something called free will, which is essential to truly knowing and loving God– we must choose Him.

    As for the apple symbolism, can’t it mean her freedom to choose her destiny? Never before had any human had the choice to turn; Bella is the first of her kind. I personally think Meyer’s choice of the apple wasn’t the best if she was looking to avoid the evil connotation, but it makes sense if you think of it as a choice Bella has to make and the way Meyer explains it.

    When Bella “eats the apple”, and becomes a vampire, she can truly appreciate Edward more. Isn’t it the same for believers in Christ? When we love God, we can appreciate His works more. I know that as a Christian, I see more value in the works of His hand than many of my secular friends. I have a deeper appreciation for Godly life, beauty, morality and virtue. I can appreciate and love God more because I have “changed” into a believer. I have an inner joy that is the result of my faith, a contentedness that stems from my relationship with Christ, that non-believers simply do not have. Also, Bella is now capable of truly loving Edward. As Christians, I believe we know the true meaning of love because God is Love, and we become capable of loving our enemies, loving our friends and family, and loving ourselves in the way we are meant to. We put our faith in Christ it is called having a ‘relationship’ with Him. It is a two-way street, we are both “active participants”. Christ is perfect and wonderful– we are awed by His majesty just as Bella is awed by Edward. (Note I’m not trying to depict Edward as Christ, just that their relationship changes due to her transformation, just as our relationship with God changes when we become Christians). Bella has no more mundane needs; Christians are no longer constrained by the needs of the world: we are in the world, but not of it. Also, you say ” ‘Now I’ve had enough for one day. I was always going to want more. And the day was never going to end. So in such a situation, how did we ever stop?” p.482/3. The purpose of Bella’s life had become knowing, loving and serving Edward and being happy with him forever.” How is this anti-Christian? I want more and more of God in my life; I strive to be more and more like Him. The purpose of my life is knowing, loving, and serving God and being happy with Him forever. (Again, I’m not saying Edward is God, just that their relationship is metaphorical).

    All in all, I think it is ridiculous how people can look at books like this and make such an issue out of them. If you want to talk about satanic vampire books, go read the Anne Rice series (Interview with the Vampire ring a bell?). Those are very dark, sexual satanic books that I personally do not read (I read Interview, and started the later ones but chose not to finish because of their content). Also, Meyer graduated from BYU, so I am assuming she is a Mormon. Whether or not you feel Mormons are Christians, she at least has an understanding of biblical and Christian concepts. I don’t think a Mormon would espouse satanic and anti-Christian beliefs in her books. I think you are reading way too much into the words of her books, and making arguments on things taken out of context. You can say the exact same thing about my arguments– I am definitely interpreting the books a certain way just to put down your arguments.

    Jake also takes about reading or seeing things and how they lead to sin. I believe every person struggles with sin, and everyone has different sins they struggle with for whatever reason. I don’t believe homosexuals are born gay, but I do think they struggle with sexual immorality in ways that most people do not. They are tempted by things that are not temptations for others. Example: I am not tempted or controlled by alcohol, but alcoholics are. Similarly, books like Twilight, or any other pre-teen highschool-level idealized version of life (High School Musical anyone?) can be stumbling blocks for girls (and guys) with no concept of real love. In that case, some people shouldn’t read Twilight. In the NT, Paul describes morality and says that all things are permissible [to Christians] but not all things are beneficial (1st Corinthians 10:23). He goes on to say that all things are permissible, but that we should not be stumbling blocks to others. He essentially lays out a whole code of moral behavior for us, and I think each person has the right and obligation of applying this code to their life. For some, Twilight is not good for their walk with Christ (if you can’t discern reality from fiction, and there are people like that), others have no problem reading it. But denouncing a book as inherently evil and anti-Christian? well, I just don’t agree at all.

    Last point, I promise. If you read Midnight Sun (which was posted online illegally but Meyer decided to post it herself at the end of her blog because it was already out), there is a scene where Edward is thinking about his ‘father’, Carlisle. He basically talks about disappointing Carlisle by carrying out his temptations and immoral desires, knowing Carlisle would still love and forgive him. Not that Carlisle, again, is God, but this is exactly the relationship we have with our heavenly Father. Carlisle is Edward’s ‘father’ in the sense that he created and loves him. Midnight Sun also provides insight into Edward’s struggles and thoughts about faith and God (it begins with references to purgatory) which I feel are anything but anti-Christian. All in all, the book promotes chastity and is pro-life and can be interpreted as a metaphor for many aspects of Christianity. In the end, it is a book, and you can interpret anyway you please, but why an interpretation is even necessary is beyond me. There will always be anti-Christian, satanic books that were meant to put down our faith (Golden Compass is one), but there will always be Christian books that advocate our beliefs and put down the secular life-style. Twilight is fairly neutral, and even bends toward the positive.

  9. I totally agree with Carole.
    she couldnt have put it in better words =]

  10. Dear Carole –

    Regarding the first bone being picked, I would respectfully disagree.
    I do not know if you are a Catholic or not, but this question has certainly been addressed authoritatively by the Bishop’s synod on catechesis which concluded with Pope John Paul II’s Apostolic Exhortation “Catechesi Tradendae”, in which he states the following about the importance of memorization (#55):
    “At a time when, in non-religious teaching in certain countries, more and more complaints are being made about the unfortunate consequences of disregarding the human faculty of memory, should we not attempt to put this faculty back into use in an intelligent and even an original way in catechesis, all the more since the celebration or ‘memorial’ of the great events of the history of salvation require a precise knowledge of them? A certain memorization of the words of Jesus, of important Bible passages, of the Ten Commandments, of the formulas of profession of the faith, of the liturgical texts, of the essential prayers, of key doctrinal ideas, etc., far from being opposed to the dignity of young Christians, or constituting an obstacle to personal dialogue with the Lord, is a real need, as the synod fathers forcefully recalled. We must be realists. The blossoms, if we may call them that, of faith and piety do not grow in the desert places of a memory – less catechesis. What is essential is that the texts that are memorized must at the same time be taken in and gradually understood in depth, in order to become a source of Christian life on the personal level and the community level.”
    See the entire text here: http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/apost_exhortations/documents/hf_jp-ii_exh_16101979_catechesi-tradendae_en.html
    Memorization is not meaningless. If it was, we wouldn’t drill children in their times tables or work on memorizing the definitions of “cell wall” or “cytoplasm” for biology class. There are elements to learning the truth of the Faith that require it to be treated with the respect given to any other field of knowledge. There are right and wrong answers, and definitions. Knowing those things correctly gives children a grounding in Truth – and in this case, the ultimate Truths about reality. It is a positive thing to have these truths memorized – and I would say in our current culture, an essential thing. However, you are correct that memorization cannot be considered sufficient means to teach the Faith in its fullness – which necessitates intimacy with the Person of Jesus Christ.
    I think the attempt to Christianize Twilight simply doesn’t work. Although I grant that you are not setting up Edward as God but, rather, a mere metaphor for God, there are very fundamental distinctions that need to be ignored in order to do so. Edward tells Bella up front that he is not good for her. He knows he should stay away from her. He has a very strong desire to kill her much of the time. Edward believes he is damned – and also believes that when Bella is “turned”, she will be damned, too. Her answer to that is to assert that it doesn’t matter to her – HER definition of hell is life without Edward. That, frankly, is Bella re-writing reality. And that doesn’t work. That is what I mean when I say that Bella considers herself the ULTIMATE arbiter of her own destiny. I am not infringing on the reality of free will – rather, I am acknowledging that human persons are creatures who are subject to certain realities. Part of being a child of God is an act of humility that requires submission to the reality of the created order. Bella is not required to bow to the created order. She finds her fulfillment in being a vampire so that she can fully enjoy Edward, and that fulfillment, ultimately, is not love – rather, it is a life without death where she enjoys great beauty, power and unrestricted and unlimited sterile sex. What Bella’s life fundamentally proclaims is that she does not need God. She can even avoid newborn vampire bloodlust through the power of her own will. That is completely anti-Christian. The embrace of Christianity, at its core, requires a total and unequivocal acknowledgement of the need for a Savior. She lives the life the serpent promises. She does not die. She eats the forbidden fruit and enjoys the power that comes from her knowledge of good and evil.
    Catechism of the Catholic Church #396: “God created man in his image and established him in his friendship. A spiritual creature, man can live this friendship only in free submission to God. The prohibition against eating ‘of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil’ spells this out: ‘for in the day that you eat of it, you shall die.’ The ‘tree of the knowledge of good and evil’ symbolically evokes the insurmountable limits that man, being a creature, must freely recognize and respect with trust. Man is dependent on his Creator, and subject to the laws of creation and to the moral norms that govern the use of freedom.” Bella is not subject to those norms in The Twilight Saga. And Edward cannot be a Christ-like figure because Christ came to GIVE His life as a ransom – His life and His blood, as a ransom from hell… not to take others down with Him.
    As for it being ridiculous to take literature so seriously, I refer you to two of my more recent posts quoting Michael O’Brien. Symbols matter. If you think they don’t, speak to someone who has experienced post traumatic stress disorder. People are affected deeply by symbols – at the very core of their being. I have witnessed people who, after having experienced a traumatic event, have to throw out a certain coffee cup or avoid certain streets because the images they will encounter cause an involuntary physical/psychological reaction. The soul is stirred to distress because of the evocative nature of the symbol. The impact of symbols upon the human person cannot be denied. We can claim that we are above all that, but it really isn’t true. Yes, different people will have different things that they are more or less bothered by – sometimes, a lack of disturbance is not caused by virtue but by sin, which darkens the intellect and weakens the will.
    I have not read MIdnight Sun so I cannot comment on it. However – I will say that this book does not promote chastity (I have written extensively on this topic in other parts of this blog so i won’t repeat it here) and that in this book’s supposed neutrality is its truly powerful ability to manipulate and deceive. The devil is tricky.

  11. Dear Jake –
    Girls can commit the sin of lust by reading The Twilight Saga. Excerpts from Eclipse and Breaking Dawn, especially (where Bella describes in detail the “making out”, for lack of a better term, between herself and Edward) are designed to make girls lust after Edward. Granted he is a fictional character, but so are a lot of the digitally altered images used by pornographers. Let’s remember – The Twilight Saga was really written for women. Men and women are aroused differently. If The Twilight Saga was not encouraging lust, you would not see things like this: http://shop.cafepress.com/design/30813288
    God bless.

  12. I am not Catholic, and I realize that you must be, therefore we have very conflicting views on religion and faith. Memorization is a thing- it is not good or bad in itself. It can be used positively or negatively. Making kids memorize certain responses can help them by directing their lives, or could push them towards rebellion– both my parents were raised Catholic and left the Church and chose very, very ungodly lives because they didn’t agree with many of the Church’s traditions and the way they were forced upon them as youths. Memorization can be good because one of the key ways the Holy Spirit communicates to believers is by speaking to us through scripture. I know when I am struggling with sin, certain verses I have memorized will pop into my head and I know what to do (or what not to do). In the end, memorization swings both ways, but it should be the individual’s choice. It should not be required of little children or mandatory. If they don’t willfully choose to memorize things, it is meaningless. In the quote you used, the Pope is advocating willful memorization, which I agree with whole-heartedly. By comparing memorizing Godly responses and Bible verses, aren’t you devaluing the verses by putting them on the same level of as school work? I know I hate memorizing things for school, and while it can help you on the test, it makes you dislike school. Same thing– forced memorization can be detrimental to your love of your faith. But choosing to study and memorize on your own can increase your interest in the subject. In the end, we are always going to disagree on this issue. As a Protestant, I have a very different worldview and perspective than yourself.

    To be blunt, I think your attempt to make Twilight into something it is not and impose your out of proportion interpretations upon it fails miserably. I’m going to make this short, because I have finals to study for.

    You say: HER definition of hell is life without Edward.
    I say: Hell is eternal separation from God. And in our metaphor, Bella’s relationship with Edward is like our relationship with God. Separation = hell.

    You say: She finds her fulfillment in being a vampire so that she can fully enjoy Edward, and that fulfillment, ultimately, is not love – rather, it is a life without death where she enjoys great beauty, power and unrestricted and unlimited sterile sex.
    I say: 1. They are married. What’s wrong with lots of sex?
    2. We find our fulfillment in being Christians so that we can fully enjoy, love, worship and follow God. Sex is a form of physical love when it is in the confines of marriage, as Bella and Edward enjoy. When we become Christians, we fall in love with our Creator. We worship Him through our physical actions. Our obedience to His will by our actions is an act of love.
    3. When she becomes a vampire, she does become stronger and more beautiful. But she still has some of the same flaws. She finally accepts herself. As Christians, we accept ourselves and love ourselves (not in a selfish way, but in a “I know who I am and do not hate myself” way) as God accepts and loves us. (I am using her change as a symbol for our conversion, fyi).

    You say: What Bella’s life fundamentally proclaims is that she does not need God.
    I say: 1. This is somewhat ridiculous. You are arguing that because Meyer does not explicitly say that Bella is a Christian and needs the God of the Bible that the book is anti-Christian. The book doesn’t reference God, or any god, so it must be anti-Christian?
    2. She does avoid the bloodlust, but only through extreme self-control. She chooses not to ‘sin’ and defeats temptation. Would it have been better if she had ‘sinned’ and killed innocents? True, we NEED our Savior. There is no escape from that fact. But God doesn’t live our lives for us, He asks and demands of us to try and lead an unblemished life. He knows thats not possible, so He forgives us, but He still demands that we use self-control to defeat temptation.
    3. Edward helps her. When they are hiking, she smells him and stops, choosing to run away. If he hadn’t been there, she would have lost control. She isn’t perfect, she is trying to remove ‘sin’ from her life, just as Christians do.

    You say: She lives the life the serpent promises. She does not die. She eats the forbidden fruit and enjoys the power that comes from her knowledge of good and evil.
    I say: 1. She can still die. She can be killed or can kill herself. She is not indestructible. 2. If you can see her change as “eating the forbidden fruit”, then I can interpret it as choosing a life of love for God over a sinful existence. And she enjoys the freedom that comes with being a Christian.

    You say: And Edward cannot be a Christ-like figure because Christ came to GIVE His life as a ransom – His life and His blood, as a ransom from hell… not to take others down with Him.
    I say: Edward saved Bella’s life with his venom, as a ransom from hell (which I defined earlier as eternal separation from God, or in the metaphor, Edward). He doesn’t “take her down with him”.

    You say: If you think they don’t, speak to someone who has experienced post traumatic stress disorder. People are affected deeply by symbols – at the very core of their being. I have witnessed people who, after having experienced a traumatic event, have to throw out a certain coffee cup or avoid certain streets because the images they will encounter cause an involuntary physical/psychological reaction.
    I say: (Jokingly) Did Twilight give you PTSD? I too know people affected by PTSD, and I disagree. They are not affected by symbols, they are affected by actual events that happened to them. They see things that remind them of the event(s) and experience flashbacks. Whatever reminded them of the event is an actual thing, like a sound, a location, a face. They are extremely different than literary symbols used in fiction novel. Literary symbols represent other things, other concepts, other ideas than what the literally are; PTSD flashbacks are due to actual representatives of the traumatic event.

    You say: The soul is stirred to distress because of the evocative nature of the symbol. The impact of symbols upon the human person cannot be denied. We can claim that we are above all that, but it really isn’t true. Yes, different people will have different things that they are more or less bothered by – sometimes, a lack of disturbance is not caused by virtue but by sin, which darkens the intellect and weakens the will.
    I say: 1. Are all symbols bad then? What about the cross? It represents our Lord and Savior, yet is a painful and disturbing image that stirs my soul distress when I think of what Christ went through. The cross has many painful and horrific connotations, yet Christians use it as a symbol of beauty and love.
    2. I agree with you about the power of symbols, we are definitely affected by them. I just do not understand why you interpret the symbols present in Twilight as anti-Christian.

    Thanks, but I would prefer not to read any of your other blogs. We clearly see things quite differently. Also, I would suggest that in the future you not use Catholic catechism as basis for your arguments. Not everyone in this debate is Catholic, therefore we do not conform to the same standards. Use material that everyone can agree on, such as the Bible, or things that everyone should be familiar with, like PTSD. To be perfectly straightforward, I honestly do not think Twilight was meant to be a Christian book. I believe it certainly has some Christian themes running through it (I think it is pro-life and pro-chastity) but it was not meant to be just as my metaphor interprets it. I simply used my metaphor to show that if you can interpret something to be anti-Christian, I can interpret it just as well to be pro-Christianity.

  13. Dear Carole –
    People of good will can see truth, no matter what the source. For that reason, I will not stop using the Catechism of the Catholic Church when I write on this blog. It is full of truths that any Christian could assent to. To dismiss it out of hand prevents grappling with what it presents.
    At some point here, it is no longer a game and reality has to play a part in discussion/argumentation. It is simply not true to say that you can honestly (key word being “honestly”) interpret this book in accordance with Christianity. That is not to say people can’t offer interpretations that they claim are in accord with Christianity. Someone can say a “stop” sign is a “go” sign – but when they drive through it at 40 MPH and crash into another car, they have a lot of explaining to do. I’m not claiming the author had any intention to write an explicitly anti-Christian book. What I am saying is that symbols are important and turning them on their head can warp the intellect. (I know you don’t want to read the posts quoting the author Michael O’Brien, which is fine – but if you don’t, you will not be able to engage in debate on this point effectively.) In Eclipse (p.453/454), Edward tells Bella he has killed a lot of people, stolen, lied and coveted. He believes he is damned and that “turning” her will damn her, as well. The murderer from the beginning and the father of lies is satan, not Christ. I’ll leave it up to the readers of this blog to examine if the proposal of Edward as Christ figure defies the law of non-contradiction. Now go study! I hope the exams go well. God bless.

  14. Nice one Carole. I really liked they way you analyzed that 🙂 especially the whole metaphorical relationship between Edward and Bella. I’d never thought of it that way but looking at it now I can really see where you’re coming from. I love how we took a fiction book and spent days debating on it. Well i have finals too so I guess I better study. Good luck on yours!

  15. Thanks for visiting, Jake. I hope your finals go well. God bless.

  16. When I read the series I was appalled at the way Bella idolized the Cullen vampires and their perfection. She didn’t even give a second thought about the term “living forever”! It seemed like she just wanted to be beautiful, have beautiful things, belong to a beautiful thing, and live beautifully.

    Not to mention she made love to and married a dead corpse. She is 18 years old and Edward is 108. If his beautiful chiseled face wasn’t there to mesmorize leagues of teenagers, I bet they’d think that was a pretty creepy (if not immoral) idea.

    Breaking Dawn came out and words like “reverence” and “almost worship” were used with describing Nessie Cullen…a baby who was eating through her internal organs.

    And then ideas of interbreeding species (the imprinting of Jacob on Nessie) pops up.

    …Someone explain to me how is Bella selfless? She ditches her family and friends for Edward. She’d be willing to outlive her parents and do anything for her chisel-faced adonis.

    They fell in love within a couple of weeks due to a powerful and obsessive attraction. That’s what I’ve concluded about this book…It is not about true forbidden love rather obsession and lust.

  17. I see your blog has been as active and heated as mine – althoiugh I have irrate Mormons beating down my site. What is it with these books. Hang in there, and thanks for writing the truth. Amie
    http://writetools.wordpress.com

  18. i’m sorry for being so blunt but this is REDICULOUS!!! if you want people to listen to you, you have to point out the good things also. no one wants to hear only negative things. and “writetools”, no wonder you have “irrate Mormons beating down your site” if you are going to put the truth out there, do it in a loving way. this book is symbolic of christianity. bella is edward’s forbidden fruit. vampires are meant to love only one person. and it’s like a soul mate for them (without the soul) but edward loves bella so much that he refuses to ruin her life unless that is the only way she could live. the desire he has to drink her blood, in my mind, is a stronger desire than humans to sin. guys, you just need to seperate fiction from reality. sometimes everything cannot be perfect in your little christian eyes and instead of TRYING to start shit, you need to just let it be. because your little website is at the bottom of the list when someone googles “Twilight” your not helping anything but your self esteem. and your hurting alot of innocent people

  19. First of all english is not my first language. So I hope you can understand me. I’m a catholic 21 years old woman and I’m reading Twilight saga.
    The first thing I thought when I started reading Twilight was that there was something that crashed with my way of thinking about religion, love and female roll; even though I hadn’t read anything explicit connected with those topics yet. And this feeling becomes stronger since the first moment I read New Moon and I find all the proof to say my thoughts were truth.
    The fact that Bella’s reason for living is “loving” Edward, makes me think there is a sexism idea round female roll; as she couldn’t be anything else than Edward’s lover! Besides she assents it’s much more important following Edward wherever than be with her family or take control of her own life. (Although she cares her parent she concludes they’ll be fine without her; as she were trying to justify her self) Poor girl, why women’s purpose in life must be love a man? Isn’t it chauvinist?
    Another point is the fact that Bella assents she doesn’t have faith (chapter 2, New moon) and she says to Edward she doesn’t care losing her soul just to be a vampire and be able to follow him. Is it a sane way of think about life or love? Why has a person damn his soul for other one? I think that’s not an option to consider… Following saying she doesn’t have faith she says she can’t image somebody, including “any kind of deity”, who doesn’t feel fascinated with Dr Cullen (isn’t it a blasphemy?); besides the fact the only heaven she cares about is one where Edward could be in. Neurotically sick! Definitely the main character is atheistic. However Dr Cullen and Edward both believe in God and heaven. Such an irony! So we can’t say Edward is an anti-Christ figure when he’s just a poor damned guy and we can read in New moon he regrets for losing his soul and does every as is possible not to damn Bella too…
    Also Bella’s fascination with family Cullen (with vampires) is something sick, she talks as she adores them. And in my opinion this attitude of putting down humanity is offensive for us. I think putting down humanity is not necessary. Why the author has to exaggerate in this point? There is not any kind of vindication of humanity as being human was the worst thing to aspire to be like. Definitely it’s not pro-life also the fact that the ideal state for Bella is being eternally dead!
    I think this story is a sick love story. Because is not a healthy love, it’s an obsessive one! Even both mean characters think about suicide instead of living without each other. –In this point I don’t understand why this story is more shocking than Romeo & Julieta after all-. Besides the way the main characters live their love is not exactly an example of virtuous one if we pay attention to the way she fells like when she is close to him; that’s really lust though the explanation to her reaction is that “vampires weapons” make humans feels like this…On the other hand, Edward makes all as is possible not to fall in this, despite the fact that the reason for it is he could “hurts her” (other sick point I think) That’s not exactly an example of chastity, as you say. Because not having sex with Bella is not a genuine Edward’s decision.
    As a result, Twilight saga has lots of points that a catholic never could be agree with just because they are against catholic ethics; and against human moral in general, I think.
    I don’t think there is any kind of metaphor about something in this story. I think every idea about life is very specific and they are the way the author sees life. And the fact that “Bella’s point of view” be the most important one and the “winner” one (she becomes into a vampire after all) puts things enough clear.
    Is it certain talking about “second read”? Could it really move my faith away from my Lord? I don’t know if it’s a blasphemy the fact that Bella believes her purpose in this world is being a vampire or if it is a metaphor about our relation with God or it’s just part of this fictional story… I don’t know if it’s wrong reading a story where the main character is atheistic or it depends on what I think about or how I fell like when I’m reading.
    Anyway, each one can think whatever. But I don’t think a fictional story could change people’s mind if they are really faithful to their values. In that point I think we are putting to much attention on something that we shouldn’t. But it’s true that literature is very important in our society. And it’s true it could have some influence on very young girls because they are easily persuadable. And it’s very common feels obsessed with someone (i.e. singers or actors) when you are young. But the real effect that it could have on them is something that I’m not able to talk about.
    To sum up, I don’t think this story could change my mind and, although I’m not agree with lots of points in this story, it doesn’t mean I would “ban it” because I’m absolutely sure about Who I believe in and how I want to live like.

  20. Thank you, Nash. I think your English is excellent.

  21. I think reading TWILIGHT and its series doesn’t need us to be bothered as Christians. As long as our faith is not shaken by any form of entertainment that we see and hear (just like twilight movie and book), we need not worry about anything. There are lots of books in the world that doesn’t neccessarily agree with our Christian beliefs but we still accept them as a form of literature and art. Twilight is an art. It is one of those fantastical books that has a unique story and I found it entertaining.
    However, since it is a book that has some contents that cannot be fully and philosophically understood by some children and adolescents, reading it must require a parent to guide his or her child during the reading process; or at least explain to the child that ‘this is wrong’ or ‘this is okay’ and why it is wrong and okay. Basically, what I’m trying to say is that there should be a parental guidance involved as the child reads the book, in order to avoid misunderstanding of the book.
    And let me say that although Twilight is rather a great book and has an amazing story, there could nothing be as great and amazing as the Holy Bible that we Christians have. We can still read the Twilight and other FICTIONAL books and treat them as artistically and philosophically as possible, but never let the Faith in Jesus Christ be neglected; or at least twilight does not need to affect your own beliefs and opinions, because it is a book in itself. you may want it or not but it has been a book and it is there.

  22. ok, sir or mam, I am relgious christna (cahtolci but I disagree soem catholc ivews liek rpayign to saitns) I don’t condone doirvorce, I don’t condone ppremairal sex. the aftleie with Gdo and Jeus, and beign a cooghd cristian is morre imprtoant then yoru bf. But I love Twlights seris(snad movie) I’m obbssed and I’m in love With Eward, I do maignae the secnes goign in my head but I’n nkwo its’ not real. I have amajr crush no Edward and there ischristian values. THEy don’t have sex till they marrie.d i jsut pretned that ehtese aral lchrsitan(the all msot and have belif Gdo with varied beleifs some of less devotu christian friends) forgivness, seriosuly Do I gree iwth the soems bad chocies no. but I can forgive them. All the actos wee were sutided for the roles and are talend and goodlooking., heck, I would on a date with Rbo pattison if I was older, asl ogn a hes’chrstian and I wouldl voe to see in the little ashes movie alot but its ‘rated r. sex scens make mre ciergne epscially premaitl sex secens (if they goign to a movie and it’s imnpleid a married ocuple it sabotu to ahve, they coudl show them amkign and show the morging after adn they’ce covered in bedshirst iwth the girl actor wearign sme jeans undernead and a tube top and the guy wear soem palnts) anways, my friend really ikes the Twlgith and she’s a devotu cathoilc(I think she disaggres a caotlhic idea but ahd sw wodner why I disagree with otehr things btu yeah, her parent leat he read) my paretns are relgios. they let me read. it. I’m a ocnemrpyo christian with soem devotu and orthdow bleifs. I lvoe chrisitans goth. I lvoe seucalr metal, adn pop and I like christian rock.

  23. oh yeah, if soemnoe sutmbles because in their fiath we need to help the and pray for them, but we are rpeonsbile four o suns , fi they feel ust because I awya we looked it bothh and their orus fualt but still.

  24. I am a 6th grade teacher in New York City. I am also a devout Christian. I am very concerned about the recent infatuation with the Twilight series. My students can’t seem to get enough. It is almost as if addicted to the story and characters. The danger in stories like this, or the Golden Compass or even the Harry Potter Books is that it is de-sensitizing our Christian Youth. I am only 27, and I have seen how it is easy to accept things, that you know are completely wrong, the more you see or hear them. These books, although allegedily written by Christian authors, are against the word of God. You can call me a fundamentalist or whatever you choose, but there is only one book that will judge us in the end-the Bible. When you have a teenage audience, who is trying to find themselves and develop their own opinions and views, and they are filled with this nonsense, it is very hard to form Godly opinions. I am a youth leader in my church, and I will be speaking to my kids about filling their minds with things that glorify Jesus. If we condone these types of books that lead to confusion and thoughts that as long as we get what we want, we will be happy, we will lose our kids to the philosophies of this world. The Bible says to cast off the weights and the sin that easily beset us. You may not believe these books are sinful, but if they are leading to self dependence and confusion, then it becomes a weight. We need to keep ourselves full of light, so that the world can see a difference. A true way of salvation. Thank you for writing this blog.

  25. Dear Stephanie –
    Excellent reflection. Thanks for posting it here. I’m glad you are teaching junior high. God bless.

  26. We should ban Clifford: The Big Red Dog, too. Clifford’s author never explicitly states that he is anti-Christian, but the imagery is clearly there. He starts out small, letting the little girl that adopts him think he is weaker than the others. When she chooses him, he is continuously ‘disappearing’ (clearly using demonic powers here) and then they’d find him in an unusual place–often where he would be causing some kind of problem, such as in the father’ shoe (just as the devil causes little problems, which fester and turn into larger issues).

    Then the little girl makes a wish that Clifford would grow big enough that he could never disappear again. (wish fulfillment is one of the ways the devil ensnares people). Then (magikally) Clifford grows to massive proportions–way bigger than his species would be able to grow naturally (ie: supernaturally, and if it isn’t natural then it isn’t the way God made it and is thus against God). He obviously symbolizes sin–the red color of his fur, the way he snuck into the little girl’s heart as a small puppy but then slowly grew and grew until he was big enough to consume her makes that obvious.

    I’m serious guys, Clifford the Big Red Dog is a satanic minefield of anti-Christian ideals. We need to protect children from these kinds of books. There isn’t enough room in their heads for the Bible, Catholic dogma, and books that they might read in school. You have to pick two of the three, and if you leave out the Bible or the Catholic dogma, you’re a bad Christian.

    /irony

  27. Hilary… you ought to feel guilty! You almost commited murder… here I was sitting comfortabley, when along came your post. I just about died of laughter.

    Tsk, and to think that young, impressionable children are encouraged to read those horrible books – next thing you know they’ll be writting picture books with satanic rituals…

  28. While I do admit that this book doesn’t promote Christianity, I don’t see how it is anti-religion. Yes, the book is talking about finding joy and peace (that you only see in heaven) on Earth. Stephenie Meyer made the “happily ever after” a heaven on earth. I also agree that Edward isn’t a Christ figure and shouldn’t be lauded or swooned over, but he DID wait until marraige, and that’s something to say. It shows girls to wait too, especially the one’s who are “in love” with Edward Cullen. All these things are present, yes, but readers just need to keep their own morals high and not get sucked into the books and the world.

  29. It’s a story. You read it and then it ends. Like any good book there are certain things about the characters that people can relate to. Like a first love, starting a new school, a love triangle, Bella’s insecurity, disagreements with your parents. It is a fantastical novel that overly exagerates the average teenage girls life. Stop looking so much into it. It’s unhealthy. I actually think that by making such a big deal about the series you are actually enticing people to read it. Now everyone wants to know what the big deal is. and it’s funny because there is no big deal. You can find Christ or the anti-Christ in everything. Let it be.

  30. Dear April –

    I know that I am not “enticing” anyone to read the Twilight saga by warning them about it (especially parents who don’t have the time to go through it themselves) so don’t bother trying to use that argument to confuse anyone. Darkness hates the light. Exposing it to the light, for everyone to see, actually lessens its seductive power.
    Christians (and by this term I refer to those who embrace true freedom in liberation from sin which only comes through the saving death and resurrection of the Jesus Christ) know that some of the most heinous sins are committed in the mind. For example – what is the use of pornography other than mental rape? Jesus said that anyone who looks at another lustfully has already committed adultery with them in their heart (in this sense, the mind is involved, because the “heart” is used not to describe the internal organ that pumps blood but to refer to the internal center of the person). Adultery is a serious sin. What we fill our minds with (like stories) can determine our eternal destiny. It is pretty difficult to make a big enough deal about that…

  31. Its not the fact that reading the book or watching the movie, no matter if it is FICTION or not is going to take away our Christianity. It is the fact, and I tell my daughter and wife this, what you watch, listen to, read, etc. gets into your mind and changes your thinking. When you change your thinking, and you do it more and more, your actions and eventually your life starts to think and go in that direction. God reminds us in the Bible in a number of places to “guard our hearts and minds.” He knows that what we allow to enter through the eyes and ears gets into our hearts eventually and perverts the way we are supposed to think. Adultery’s wrong right? Of course it is, but Jesus took it farther, looking lustfully at a boy or girl is “adultery” in your heart. God knows our heart. You dont have to commit the action to be sinning, all you have to do is start to “think” it. Nobody wakes up one day and wants to commit adultery or any other sin for that matter; they’ve already been thinking about it in their head. In the book of Romans, Paul, a missionary for Christ, tells the Christians in chapter 12 verse 2 “Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind” How do we renew our minds? We read the Word of God (the Bible) to learn how it is that God wants us to “think”, because that’s where it starts. Our thinking effects our actions. That’s why anything, whether it is fiction or not, that doesn’t line up with God’s will and plan for our lives, is dangerous.

  32. The real central issue here, is that the bible considers the drinking of blood and the killing of the innocent to be an abomination punishable by death. So the very fact that this is a vampire book is a problem for Christians. There will never be a “Christian” vampire series that is biblical because the idea of vampires in general is pretty much sacrilegious.

    As well, before we met Christ, we were all damned and our souls were lost. By his love and grace we are now right with God and our souls are restored. A lost soul is nothing to desire as Bella does in the Twighlight series. She is willing to give up her soul basically for sex. How is that a good role model for Christian girls? She also ends up with a pregnancy outside of marriage. Its commendable she keeps the child, but not only is she having sex, but she is bringing another lost soul into this world. Bella is not a heroine, she is a sad, lost girl who has chosen darkness instead of light. Forbidden love, instead of what is right.

    It is also very sexual. That in and of itself should shock Christian parents who are trying to teach their children to be pure. Not only do the characters in love give themselves to one another, Bella is so lustful for Edward she gives up her very soul.

    There is also a theme that is disturbing and that is the idea that Bella can control the darkness and will it to her desires. We all know that darkness will overtake us if we flirt with it. That is really giving teens a warped perception of how powerful death and darkness are.

  33. P.S

    opps…I must correct myself. When they finally have sex they are married. But they mess around a lot and push themselves to the limit several times before that. But still I dont think teens need to read about a girl who gives up her soul so she can have sex finally and then read about it when they do have sex. Just not Christian teen material.

  34. Just thought of a funny thought. What was the point of the writer having the characters wait til marriage to have sex? Killing, blood sucking, loosing ones soul……shoot she should have just thrown the sex in there too at that point. What difference will it make. They are damned anyway.

  35. I think you did not actually read the books. If you had you would have noticed that the Cullen family does not kill people and drink their blood. They kill animals and drink their blood, which is not morally different from killing animals to eat their flesh. An important point in the books is that the Cullens (including Edward) have these temptations, and yet exercise self control for moral reasons. They object morally to killing people and drinking their blood, just as you do, shay. You agree with Edward! The notion that people should exercise self control to overcome temptations is certainly a very Christian idea.

  36. Twilight is a love story, its a novel that takes two people and shoes the kind of struggles that encompass relationships. Meyer’s creativity uses a classic vampire-human to illustrate this love. She does not use the typical lust and sex that comes with a vampire movie but rather introduces and new kind of character. Edward doesn’t want to settle for what he is, he chooses to rise above what has been given him and seeks out a life that allows him to make peace with what he is. Meyer tells their story tastefully while upholding christian values regarding boundaries, marriage and sex. There is nothing wrong with a little imagination, everything in moderation right? You can have a drink wine or you can drink the whole bottle, i believe that Meyer’s story is is just a a drink.

  37. I think that is an excellent analogy. We know that God gave us wine as a gift to be enjoyed and appreciated. We also know that people can sin by abusing this gift, but that does not make the gift itself bad. Prohibition is as un-Catholic as is drunkenness. In the same way, I think it is more truly Catholic to appreciate the gift that God gives us in the Twilight books than to condemn the books because some people do not take the gift the right way.

  38. Wow, you people are utterly insane. It’s a book. It won’t kill you, and it’s definitely not going to bring about the end of the world.

  39. Now, now, don’t over-react. No one said that it is going to bring about the end of the world, or kill us. The issue is whether or not the book is an aid or an impediment to our salvation. No one earthly thing can bring us to Heaven, or stop us getting there. Ultimately, the only issue is whether we long to unite our will to God’s. But God in His goodness has made a world in which things do matter. What we read, what we were, how we talk to people, and many other decisions we make can affect the final decision of our souls. The decisions we make can also affect other people. So we do need to be heedful, and ask ourselves (and for those of us in a strong Catholic community, ask others) whether our decisions are good. There is somewhere that St. Paul says something like this “Some things are permitted by are not good.” That is not the exact quote.

    I do agree that some books can be VERY unhelpful, and that even a very good book if take the wrong way can be very bad for people. I just disagree with the hostess here about where on the continuum the Twilight books are.

  40. 1. If you have not read the books and are commenting, please read them because one can never rely solely on another’s opinion of literature. To second that, if you disagree with the idea of Twilight and have not read the books, than you must read them in order to fully prepare any defenses you may have, or your opponents will never take you seriously.

    2. #1 having been said, I do not believe that any Catholic so vehemently against Twilight understands what it means to be Catholic. I am a Catholic that has come from an extremely Catholic family – (I was raised to say the rosary and Chaplet of Divine Mercy, I go to church every Sunday and am educated in the teachings of the Church.) What is missing from most of these anti-Catholic argument is COMMON SENSE! Yes, one who has no type of understanding of his religion or right vs wrong may be affected negatively; however, I do believe that while many in our society may not practice their religion, people have a basic understanding of Christianity / right vs wrong, which is all one really needs to be able to read Twilight and keep one’s soul on track.

    3. Another argument that is missing from many anti-Catholic posts is PARENTING! If you are scared that your child is going to condone vampirism (which does exist), than I hate to break it to you, but you haven’t exactly set a good, Christian example for your child. Parent’s need to draw the lines between fantasy and reality. If your high school child cannot tell the difference or will be greatly swayed morally, than there is something a bit deeper wrong or you as parents have not done your jobs.

    4. For the parents on here talking about lusting, you need to somehow wake up (no disrespect intended) and realize that most teens will deal with lust today. The answer is not to take away one of the only fictional series that frowns upon sex before marriage, but the answer is to have an open discussion with your children regarding a virtuous, sexual life. Yes, lusting is a sin, but a common one. The bigger sin is giving into lust, which is not what happens in Twilight.

    5. Lastly, a book cannot make someone drink blood, have an unhealthy / lusting relationship, or seek immortality outside if Christ – only the person can, which is why God gave us free will. It is disturbing that so many people are against this series when there are TRUE evils out there! Most sane people will not take these arguments seriously as the arguments lack complete common sense or hide behind religion they don’t understand.

    I apologize for the lengthy post, but I want to finish by saying that anti-Twilighters do no good for the fight against evil. Like I said, there is evil out there, and if so much energy is spent fighting Twilight, than people are not going to listen to arugments against real evil. You are playing into the devil’s hand by fighting Twilight and in doing so, masking his real works.

  41. Re: Lord of the Rings – why is this not considered anti-Catholic? Yes, it is believed by many to reflect various aspects of the Catholic faith, obviously good vs evil, but there are things in this series that can be taken way beyond Twilight. Please note, I am in no way, shape, or form against LOTR – I love these books and think everyone should read them. I am simply making a point as to how things can be twisted when taken too seriously.

    Gandalf is depcited as one of the MOST virtuous characters in the series – he even rejects the ring when Frodo offers it to him, yet he often uses magic, as most fictional wizards do. I don’t find too many people going off about people getting into the occult after reading LOTR.

    And what about the elves, who are really more or less supernatural beings who can pass into the next life often without actual death? I also dont hear many people going off about people seeking immortality outside if Christ after reading LOTR.

    Also, Gandalf has a rebirth if his own, much like Bella. He re-imerges in the Two Towers as Gandalf the White – is reincarnation not DIRECTLY against church teachings? If Gandalf is supposed to be a Christ figure, than his second coming would not have made him more powerful or more knowledgeable as Christ has always been omnipotent. Is this somehow teaching one to limit Christ’s power?

    The idea of lust between girlfriend / boyfriend is not really present in LOTR, but there are so many more examples of things that can be construed as anit-Catholic / Christain, there is not enough room.

    For obvious reasons I won’t, but I could LITERALLY go on and on about LOTR, not because I am against it, (again, I am a huge fan of the books!) but because I can’t understand those that say these books are fine and the Twliight series is not. I find nothing wrong with LOTR or Twilight as I read them both as fiction, as most people do. LOTR and Twilight both have very interestng Catholic / Christain parallels, and even if they didn’t, it really wouldn’t matter as they are both fiction. If people can read LOTR and not get a distorted view of reality, than they can certainly handle Twilight.

  42. I would like to make a comment on twilight, I have not read the books, but watched the movies, anything ungodly we are to turn our heads away from. Being immoral are not what humans are to poses, but we are to be how god created us, and to accept our selves to who we are. Being that it is a fantasy, a love story, that’s where we are mislead, it is catchy for young teens, making them want to fall in love, making young girls want to lust over the perfect body image. Now someone made a statement in the first comment that jk Rowling is a lifelong time Christian, that is not true, if she was a christian, she would not make these witchcraft movies for young children to be obsessed about. Young children will perform these acts from harry potter, driving them away from god, yet Children are the most innocent human beings in the world. Jk Rowling is far from Christian, cares nothing in the world for the younger generation, only for them to be driven away from god. Any one can say they are christian, doesn’t mean they are one, of jk rowland will meslead anyone from the truth of her mission.. The titles of harry potter sound satanic and demonic, and anti-christ enouph for me to keep my children from watching them. As for twilight, I completely understand the concept of giving into the temptation of becoming immoral, relating to the concept of Eve biting into the apple. As a christian, I learned my whole life from my grandparents that to live a life for god, we are to set our selves away from anything ungodly that will set an example to stray away from doing the wills of god. I watched the movie my self and found it entertaining, some parts of the movie put a lump in my throught, some parts made me laugh it was entertainment, it sucked me in, and that was the whole point of the movie was to get sucked in to it.

  43. its just a book you psycho christains…you people make me sick go find something more important to bitch about…go read your cheesy romance novels. people should be allowed to beleive in whatever they want…im sorry if your 14c year old daughter read it and to you its an abomination but “people of god” cant control everything… im a luthern myself but i dont go around bashing peoples sci fi novels…get over yourself

  44. If it is “just a book” Nina, why are you so passionately defending it?

  45. “By beholding we become changed.” (2 Cor. 3:18) If we behold Christ, we are changed into His image… and the reverse would also be true. Media is powerful, and Satan uses it as a “medium” to transfer his ideologies. It is for those who are unaware of his devices who will fall prey to them. If we are repeatedly exposed to something we become accustomed to it. Studies have shown that when someone is watching a movie there brain reacts as if they are actually experiencing what is happening… look into that. Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: 1 Peter 5:8 If you aren’t aware, even if you are very intelligent, you will be decieved. (Matt 24:24)

  46. Everything is permissible but not everything is beneficial. Why waste time on things that are not beneficial?

  47. Don’t be dceived concerning the Twilight movies and books! Read this article and discern!

  48. Awesome article with numerous excellent points. Thanks for posting!


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